No lie. They do this in my church, Catholic. And this is fairly new as far as I know. We never did it growing up. It is not a tradition that we always had and the Nazis took over, like they took over the swatzika, or the nice hiking songs. This is something new that they have imposed on us. Some people look just like in the old films. Some sort of at least bend their arms or half way do it. I refuse to do it at all and I write very strong notes and put them in the collection plate. I can not fathom for the life of me why they, whoever they are, the same ones that come up with the super ugly songs they sing now, would come up with this. Is this done in other Catholic churches? Other religions? What would people think if they walked in this church and saw a congregation of mostly older people, old enough to be at least children or teens in WWII, doing this? mg