Well, sometimes we don't have priests in this parish. We share with another parish. Maybe I should check and see if they only do it when the priest is not there. Tonight it had to do with who had birthdays in September. They say a prayer and people go up to the altar and the congration does the Nazi salute. This is not part of the liturgy that I grew up with. I'm OK with the birthday part though. This is not a joke. it is for real that they do this.    mg