I repeat. This is not a practice that as far as I know has been in usage in the Catholic church. It is new probably in the last year or so to me. I have been Catholic my whole life. I never saw it pre or post Vatican council. If you see these people at church, and you see clips of the old war films, you could not tell the difference. I would be all for reclaiming or keeping something that had meaning. It has no continuous historical meaning. maybe they did it centuries ago but they haven't done it in my lifetime. I am not in any way suggesting they have any Nazi inclinations. It is one of those sensitivity things. Why do something with those connotations when it is not something you have always done? Why start it? Use another body part in a less offensive manner. mg