Martin Gibson, I wasn't saying that I wanted the war fought here instead of Iraq. I started this thread to give people some idea of how chaotic and dangerous a place Iraq is right now. Under the hypothetical situation described in the article, America would be a horrible place to live. Yet our current president and his appointed lackey tell us that Iraq is doing fine, get rid of just a few undisciplined scamps and everything will be rosey. These guys are lying to us again and I'm sick and tired of their B.S.

Mike