I've done as much reading as I've had time for today on this subject and I think I'm a bit more up to snuff on the situation. The evidence (that has been made public) certainly indicates that Rose bet on baseball games (and his own team) while managing the Cinci Reds. Naturally the witnesses are shady characters..but who else would have known of it? They've got fingerprints on betting slips etc. So..how long before he got in so deep financially that the mob would be suggesting certain line-up changes, or on-field decisions, in return for leaving his family alone? Sad situation, but I think the ban should stand. Now, as to inclusion in the "Hall", I think that's another issue. He should be in, with the ban explained either on his placque or in a seperate place.

Rick