But Don, we all KNOW you are in Kerry's camp, so your spin on the debate is utterly predicatably biased, like all the other people here in the Kerry camp.

Forgive some of us for thinking the Mudcatters in the Kerry camp are more than a bit biased on this.

From an independent perspective, where some of us look a little closer and a little more critically at the debate than do those in one or the other camps, it didn't look like a debate, and it didn't look like there was a GOOD choice to be made, regardless of the fact that Kerry did better than Bush.

Where was Kerry's outrage on the latest Israeli incursion into Gaza? He never mentioned the terrorist attacks on the school children by the Chechnyan separatists when asked about Russia--hell, at least Bush did. How the war on terror is influencing the volatile oil markets, how the war on terror has resulted in MORE states going down the road of totalitarianism in the Middle East, not less.

Did anyone hear even ONE SINGLE MENTION OF SAUDI ARABIA? Of Syria and Lebanon? Of the nuclear proliferation scam passing nuclear secrets on to Islamic terrorists by our "allies" in Pakistan?

No? Funny, I didn't hear anything about those pressing issues either.

A foreign policy debate my ass.