Catspaw no offence taken just wanted to get back on course. The more I sit and ponder the whole issue the more I get confused perhaps there could be a answer in I wrote it I would like it if posible to become Traditional after say % years thank you very much.BUT after saying that I am fully aware that artists have lost the righjts to their own songs after the songs have become succesful due to contracts etc There is also in the UK a argument between a writer and a puplisher who say that the song the writer wrote is traditional every one seems to aknowledge that the writer wrote it apart from one puplishing house which claims it's traditional therefore doing away with royalties. Keith