"Of course he said he would rush out and defend the US..... righjt after taking a poll as to what the most popular thing in the world would be."

Let me, in answer, quote a noted authority who said

"You are making statments of opinion as if they were facts. *I* do not know that I can count on ANY of those things to occur as you have stated."

Kerry has not talked about a poll, or getting a consensus before moving; he has talked about what the founding fathers called "a decent respect for the opinions of mankind." Bush has not had this respect.

"Getting rid of Saddam- good
"getting killed by WMD - bad

"THAT was what was the October, 2002 question."

No. Mr Bush said the war was about getting rid of WMDs, not getting rid of Saddam. He stated just before the war that even if Sadddam stepped down, we would still invade. The "getting rid of Saddam" excuse only showed up after it was beginning to look like there were no WMDs.

I believe you are changing the facts to suit your opinions, a characteristic of the present administration.

clint

And as I keep saying, most of the world did *not* think Saddam was an imminent threat to the US, or the world. That Saddam *was* an imminent threat was a minority opinion, and a wrong one, as we see. Iraq is more of a threat now.