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Thread #74432   Message #1298491
Posted By: Raedwulf
16-Oct-04 - 01:30 PM
Thread Name: BS: Spectator's comments on Liverpool
Subject: RE: BS: Spectator's comments on Liverpool
Is Penguin Egg wrong? He never said anything about the comforting of Bigley's relatives. If they have been comforted by the love & sympathy of countless people, then that is good.

It doesn't affect the validity of P.Egg's various questions about how people identify with, & grieve for, people they have neither known nor met. As opposed to the thousands of people who die in equally horrible circumstances, whose names you never know & whose faces you never see.

Did those of you attacking P.Egg grieve for the individuals (not the mass, but each & every single person) killed in the Rwanda massacres? What about Cambodia under Pol Pot?, The mass rapes & murders in Serbia/Bosnia/ex-Yugoslavia? How do you feel about this?

All that moral outrage because one elderly man whose name face & begging video was shown to you got murdered. But I haven't seen your views expressed on what's happening to those, like Disa, who didn't have a choice about where they were in the world... (Remember, Mr Bigley, was where he was taken from by his own choice)

Like PE, I don't grieve for Bigley. I am (yet again) appalled that people will take & treat individuals in this fashion. Disgust & anger at this utterly pointless, ineffective act would certainly be a better description of my feelings than grief.

I don't think P.Egg has any 'personal issues' to sort out. I think a rational & intelligent point-of-view has been presented. Several intelligent questions, well worth intelligent answers, have been asked. Sadly, intelligent answers have been lacking, particularly from the anonymous, abusive, Guest fraternity. So nothing new there then...

Eric - I'd consider myself a decent person. I haven't grieved for Kenneth Bigley. I'd be happier if he was still alive though. It's not the same thing as grief.