Reading all of this reminds me so well of a thread we ran that also expessed some of these very same thoughts. It was also the forge, or maybe the "cat-alyst" of a close, true, and what will be a lifelong friendship between two 'Catters whose experience may have differed broadly, but who came to the same place these 30 or so years later. It was a great thread,in a lot of other ways too. As one of the two involved, I'm confident that the other, who is busy right now, would also say the same. If you want, go back and check it out. Here's an infamous Blue Clicky Thing.