The John Kanaka-naka to Hawaiian I wasnt sure about I suspected a connection but if you want to give the PCs heart failure sing "Bound for Valparaiso round Cape Horn with its "Johnny Crapoos just across from France" and what about Limeys. I love the concept of "navigating with potatos" if its the basis of a song or poem send it to me, please. I sailed with a skipper on the English and near continetal coast once in my youth, who had done his early traing on a Thames Sailing barge on the east coast of England who claimed he could navigate in fog by the barking of the dogs ashore, he knew their voices and barks. I, like you, thought this was a load of oakum, until in a dense fog he brought us 60 miles into the Thames Estuary without any navigation aids and a anchored us within 100 yards of the position on the chart he claimed we were in when the fog cleared