Allan C, I don't know what computer you are using or what browser you have (and the Mudcat Chat room is down at the moment) and I have only just started playing around with Java.

It sounds to me that if you are getting the page but just a square box, your browser can not support Java or possibly has Java disabled or another security issue (I'm trying to get my head round this at the moment). I don't know about other browsers but if you are running IE5, move the mouse over the box after the page has loaded and look at the status line - it might give some clues. Also on IE5, you can view the Java Console - trying to load this applet should create error messages there - perhaps some of the "gobbeldy-gook" may provide the answer but you'll have to wait until the page is back up before trying this.

Jon