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Thread #74776   Message #1307237
Posted By: Old Guy
25-Oct-04 - 11:25 PM
Thread Name: BS: Kerry concedes Missouri
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry concedes Missouri
It is only credible if it states Kerry won. Otherwise jet in the lawyers.

Here is trick the Democrats pulled in Missouri in 2000:

"Mandate for Reform
In an effort to keep the polls open past the closing time mandated by statute, Plaintiffs the Gore-Lieberman Campaign, William L. (Lacy) Clay's Campaign, and the Missouri State Democratic Committee filed a lawsuit in St. Louis City Circuit Court in which the lead Plaintiff (Robert D. Odom) was dead. The Plaintiffs then stated that the actual lead Plaintiff was Robert M. Odom. The Plaintiffs claimed that Robert M. Odom was not allowed to vote. However, Mr. Odom in fact had voted and had no trouble voting. As a result of the lawsuit and the representations made by the lead Plaintiff and witnesses, the St. Louis City Circuit Court issued an Order keeping the polls open in St. Louis City past the closing time mandated by statute. The information suggests that the lawsuit was not filed as a result of problems that occurred on election day, but instead was filed as a result of a plan conceived before election day. At about the same time that the court issued the Order, St. Louis City residents were receiving pre-recorded telephone messages from Rev. Jesse Jackson telling them they could vote late, and half an hour later Vice President Al Gore was telling KMOX radio listeners that the polls were still open. The purpose of these communications was to encourage persons not eligible to vote because of their failure to get to the polls on time to nonetheless go to the polls and vote."
http://www.sos.mo.gov/elections/pubs/reformmandate/reportpage4.asp

"RESULTS OF INVESTIGATION
The investigation into conduct of the November 7 election consisted of reviewing primarily documentary evidence.14 The Secretary of State's investigation was limited to public documents. The Secretary of State has no subpoena power to compel disclosure of non-public documents or to compel persons to testify under oath about these matters. Therefore, one of the purposes of this Report is to make a referral of the information contained herein to the appropriate law enforcement organizations with jurisdiction over these matters and the authority to compel testimony under oath to investigate whether election laws were violated and prosecute the persons who violated any laws.

   1. There Is Substantial And Credible Information That The Judicial Process Was Misused To Secure Court Orders To Allow Persons Not Legally Entitled To Vote To Nevertheless Cast Ballots In The Election


A brief overview of the events that occurred late on election day is necessary. At approximately 3:20 p.m. on election day, the Gore-Lieberman Campaign, William L. (Lacy) Clay's Campaign Committee and the Missouri State Democratic Party filed a petition in St. Louis City Circuit Court.75 The petition, entitled "Petition For Emergency Order to Extend Voting Hours" asked the court to keep the polls open in St. Louis City until 10:00 p.m., three hours past the 7:00 p.m. closing time required by statute. At approximately 6:30 p.m., the court issued its Order that the polls remain open until 10:00 p.m. and the Board's central office be held open until 11:59 p.m. An emergency appeal was taken to the Court of Appeals, and at approximately 7:45 p.m., that court issued a Preemptory Writ of Prohibition quashing the Circuit Court's Order. The Court of Appeals followed with a full opinion on the case issued on December 6, 2000. The end result is that the polls remained open at least forty-five minutes past the closing time set by statute.

The lawsuit appears to have been filed not as a result of any problems that occurred on election day, but instead was the result of a preconceived plan devised before election day. On Monday, November 6, the day before the election, at a Gore-Lieberman Campaign rally in America's Center in St. Louis City, Congressman Clay spoke to the crowd spoke to the crowd about keeping the polls open beyond the legal closing time. The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported these remarks by Congressman Clay: "If it requires leaving the polls open a little longer, we're going to get a court order to do it."76

Further evidence that there was a preconceived plan before election day were the numerous similarities between the lawsuit in St. Louis City and one filed the same day in Kansas City.77 The same language used in both petitions suggests that these lawsuits were coordinated and planned before election day. The Gore-Lieberman Campaign was also a plaintiff in the Kansas City lawsuit. The press reported that the Kansas City petition "relies on the same law and includes language similar to the petition filed in St. Louis."78

A comparison of the two petitions reveals not only similar language, but also long passages that are word-for-word exactly the same. This comparison makes it apparent that the two petitions were not created to address specific problems on election day and were not crafted to address unique concerns in one jurisdiction. The advance preparation of canned pleadings suggests a plan was developed before election day."

"Petition For Emergency Order to Extend Voting Hours
5. "Robert D. Odom [A deadman] has not been able to vote and fears he will not be able to vote because of the long lines at the polling places/machine breakdowns in St. Louis, Missouri, that have lasted for several hours."
http://www.sos.mo.gov/elections/pubs/reformmandate/reportpage5.asp



Ron:
Is the office of the secretary of state of Missouri credible enough for ya?

Old Guy