Well, to be honest it CAN seem a bit cliquey sometimes, and the BS CAN be a bit much at times. Sometimes, if there's no serious music threads around to strike a balance, its a bit like wading through goo. Not that I don't love the place, but I worry that it could become a place where one daren't question the established order without an asbestos suit. I don't think the 'if you don't like it then go away' approach is a great idea. Unless of course we want to be a clique? Lonesome EJ has a better and more encouraging approach (see above).Kris