Lamarca - the noise thing hits the nail on the head I reckon.

Mr Paw - I didn't mean that the 'if you don't like it go away' was offensive, and of course it is a legitimate point. It just rang alarm bells because it is the sort of thing that can be seductively comfortable for a group which can then find it has narrowed itself & become a clique. That is NOT an accusation levelled at Mudcat, its just something that I believe creeps easily into group behaviour & as such it could be a danger to the Mudcat. As I say, I am not saying we ARE like that - just that it is a trap to be wary of.

Kris