Kerry just conceded.

The fight begins anew.   Guest, I know you are on a kick about third parties, and Nader in particular.   You won't listen to our reasons why we do not care for Nader and why a third party will never work in this country.   We can affect change in this country, and I applaud Nader and the rest for bringing issues to the front. It is up to us to work within the parties to create the changes that will actually take place.

We weren't "soundly trounced". You can put that spin on it if you like, but it just is not the case.   We made a difference, not big enough, but we were heard and we will be heard from.