There's a new report about Ohio today. Apparently there's a precinct where 600+ voters cast ballots and the machine reported about 600 for Kerry and almost 4,000 for Bush!

Nerd - "I completely agree with you, Genie. All those votes SHOULD be counted. But they're not. Once Kerry conceded, Ohio said outright that it would not count any more ballots."

Ken Blackwell, Ohio Secretary Of State, has vowed that he WILL count all the provisional ballots. I DK if he's promised to count all the absentee ballots though.

"I think Kerry should have stuck it out just to force all the votes to be counted everywhere, but we have this obsession with finding out quickly. Giuliani was on TV within minutes, saying "Kerry should concede NOW," as though everyone's future depended more on a quick concession than on an accurate count."

Personally, I'd like to see legislation to require that a state must count ALL votes before certifying the vote count. That, and an agreement that the state would not announce its totals till the votes were certified.
That would not prevent exit polls and "leaks," but it would keep the election results in the realm of speculation till the votes were counted. (Absentee ballots could be required to be RECEIVED by Nov. 2. Oregon votes entirely by mail and Nov. 2 is the deadline for receiving all ballots.) Any "concessions" before that could be considered as non-binding.

(I don't know if the election "result" can be overturned if it's found that the actual results are different from the election night projections.   They probably can if it's discovered before the Electoral College casts votes. But though Nixon was officially re-elected in 1972, the misdeeds of his organization were brought to light during his administration and he was driven out of office.)



Subject: RE: BS: Voting problems arising
From: Nerd - PM
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 01:46 PM

I completely agree with you, Genie. All those votes SHOULD be counted. But they're not. Once Kerry conceded, Ohio said outright that it would not count any more ballots. I think Kerry should have stuck it out just to force all the votes to be counted everywhere, but we have this obsession with finding out quickly. Giuliani was on TV within minutes, saying "Kerry should concede NOW," as though everyone's future depended more on a quick concession than on an accurate count.

CarolC
"They're afraid. They know they can't win without cheating."

Well, they didn't even trust their own campaign to win without blatant LYING about Kerry.   And in 2000 they didn't trust that they could win if all the votes in Florida were counted. Why should their cheating stop now?