"And he's spouting this nonsense on several different threads, too. " my post that I tthink you refer to: Subject: RE: BS: Voting problems arising From: beardedbruce - PM Date: 05 Nov 04 - 05:17 PM PA by county DEMS win, of course... MD by county.... DEMs win, of course... NY state by county... DEMs win. of course... Michigan by county... DEMs win, of course... It seems to me that if there is an indication of fraud, a good case could be made that the Democrats really lost by a much larger margin. Or do you really think that the Dems would not stoop to such tactics?