Actually, Bill, the new WinXP SP2 popup stopper seems to be quite effective. I was using the Google Toolbar blocker, and it hasn't seen a popup since I did the SP2 thing.

Quite a few malware producers seem to have started including Anti AV and Anti blocker "infections," so it is possible to have an "infected" blocker.

Unfortunately, now a lot of web sites have started putting the "popups" directly into the page scripts, instead of as linked ads that can be blocked. More trouble for them, but the same old shit for us.

John