I've got an even better idea Dave, Penny's lurcher is with us in Beverley at the moment ,and it's a full bore rabbit killing machine. Why don't we bring the dog down to the hall, release all the rabbits, and watch the dog hunt them! If we lock them in,it would be overin ten minutes. We could place bets on which rabbit would be the last to be caught! Now how about that for livening up an afternoons tree hugging