Thanks, Laura - I am still not sure of your line of reasoning but you answers were very clear. I shall put it down to a gnome thing;-)

You are never likely to be 'seriously loosing' the arguement apart from the fact that the law is there now and no ammount of argueing can change it! Nor can you ever 'seriously win' though. You will never get the majority of the country (or the Mudcat if it comes to that!) agreeing that fox hunting should not be banned. That being said the object of the argument should be like the hunt itself. It is not the kill, but the chase that is important. So even if no-one wins or looses - we had fun on the way:-)

Your arguemnets have been more like terriers than fox hounds - Chasing round and nipping at anything that moves! Nothing wrong with that and you had me worried for a while...

Cheers

DtG