I'm with Martin - this thread has become pure drivel. Not least of which is the "pockmarked genius" who allegedly taught courses at McGill, and was at one time, if not currently, headmaster and schoolteacher in the Canadian school system, (which rivals that of Finland in maths and reading,) pretending not to know - or possibly not knowing - the meaning of fulminate. No access to dictionaries up in the cold frozen north, apparently.

Is it not possible to have a rational discussion about mind and body without it degenerating into mysticism and preciousness? Mind affecting matter is one thing, whatever the hell Amos is talking about is completely another.

I am truly discouraged. Let's just have another thread about bodily functions - I know - what brand and method of deodorant do y'all prefer? Spray or roll-on or solid?