When it comes to heavy proselytising, the 14 posts-so-far nameless GUEST seems pretty adept (or maybe it's a team of fourteen nameless GUESTS who more or less agree about something).

There's three issues here - one is the evidence that Christmas is being stolen and distorted by money-grubbing cynics. And that's something that people who actually value Christmas as a Christian celebration, and who don't buy that kind of thing, should be resisting, by the way they celebrate Christmas themselves, and I am sure many of them are doing exactly that.

And the second issue is that, for some people, there is an objection to the idea of Christmas as a Christian celebration. And I can't see that as any more worthy of regard than people who object to other types of religious celebrations, just because it's not a religion to which they adhere. And I think that is a kind of bigotry. The more celebrations there are, the better.

And the third issue is the claim that there is an oppressive and triumphalist Christo-Americanism on the march here - and if that's true, the way to challenge it is as being anti-American, and anti-Christian. In political terms that kind of movement would amount to a kind of treason, and in religious terms to a kind of blasphemy.