PoppaGator makes some very valid points. I am a professional Graphic Designer and I have to say that it really curdles my milk when I hear about people trying to reformat someone else's work. Mary if you find out who the original designer of the logo is I'm sure they would have no problem sending you a copy of the logo in jpeg, transparent gif or whatever file format works best for the particular application. You should never try to recreate or reinterprete someone elses art without their permission. Even though your client owns the logo he/she may not own the creative rights. The bottom line is you should never mess with a logo when it is so much easier to work with the original. Logo police, over and out. Den