The time Martin spoke of--when the US presented 'evidence' of a terrorist/Iraq connection--necessitated that Americans support the actions of its government and military. I agreed with both Martin--and disagreed with the decision of my own country not to support the Iraq invasion--because it looked like it was a 'must do' think. That is why I will not jump on Martin, DougR or others that still support the US action. I do not mean to be patronizing when I say I understand. I do. However, my view today is that lotsa people got hoodwinked--good and bad people, no matter. What does matter is that kids are getting killed for bullshit reasons. It's time that we all demanded they no longer have to die on the altar of our vanity.

The garbage who falsified info leading to the deaths of kids in the military deserve to be tried, convicted and shot. It won't bring the dead back, but it may set a tone for future generations: people who do this stuff WILL be held accountable. Waist deep in the Big Muddy indeed! And waist deep in the deaths of thousands upon thousands of civilians: children, women and men. There is no longer ANY honour in this. IMO.

BM