Martin is a perfect example of a chicken hawk. Never been to a warzone, never seen the effect on the civilians, believes that war is honorable.

Let one who has seen these things share something with you. It is never honorable to make war. It is a breakdown, a failure. Sometimes it is forced upon you, and you have to do your best to act honorably while doing the worst thing mankind does. I have seen so many of these "former hippies" who dodged their obligation for less than honorable reasons, then turned into raving conservative idiots later in life. Their convictions are a mile wide and a half inch deep. Contrast them with Catspaw. 'Spaw didn't believe in the war either. And he had the conviction to go to jail in defense of that belief. I am a veteran, and yet I have much respect for that. I have no respect for a person who comes here, points out every one else's faults, uses vile language and inuendo, and pretends to be very self assured. But Martin, here is a newsflash for you. You use terms like "everyone knows" a lot. Well, everyone can see you for what you really are. You are shallow, you attempt to keep the heat off yourself by pointing out what is wrong, in your mind, with others. You assume an air of superiority in order to hide your own inadequacies.

So keep mouthing your chicken hawk crap. Just understand that most here have you pegged pretty well.

I'm out of this one.
Mick