The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #71822   Message #1387833
Posted By: Dewey
25-Jan-05 - 12:38 AM
Thread Name: downloading music
Subject: RE: downloading music
I record from my XM radio PCR, connected to my sound card. This method, however, is already outdated: the new radios come with save and pause features built right into theradio itself.

Yes, the hypocrite that I am, I use winmx profusely, I usually disable the filesharing capacity and just take whatever is available. It someone gets angry with me for not sharing with them, I usually don't worry about it, (I have the ignore feature set up for incoming messages as well) they have their perrogative to share and I have mine. If I am refused access for a file by one user I usually just try to find another, 9 times out of 10 I can find the file I want through persistance.

Although I am sure the recording companies are not happy that there are so many downloading these files, it should also be noted that though most files on the internet are still in abundance, it has slowed down the traffic of the file sharers in general. I am not a file sharer myself, and take only what I find. The only way I would share any of my files would be with a friend FTP style, that is trading with indiividuals.

As far as the promulgation of the music, that is pointless, and the recording companies already know this. They couldn't stop recorded tape and Fm radios, The couldn't stop the new XM radio market from storing and recording saved content, they couldntstoppeople from buying used CD's recording them and reselling them after they are stored, they couldn't stop internet radio. They are so many ways and forums to do the same thing nowadays, it is insane for the reocd companies to even worry about this and in realilty, I really do think they do, as far as extracting files on an individual basis.

Its the droves of people that are posting files without permission that they are concerned about. It is the pirating of entire music albums in forerign countries Singapore, Indonesia, Russia, to mass markets throughout the world that is the thrust of their concern. I've seen complete boxed sets of artist on the internet that can be purchased for as little as a dollar in various hot counterfitting places around the world, its an industry for some people not just a hobby for their own perusal and enjoyment.

There various formats, Being able to control all of them is rediculous, technology nowadays and in the past is intermingled profusely with this medium. I would be shocked to learn that the RIAA is actual going to continually follow through on its threats toward individual files sharers in the future. (Please post otherwise, should you learn any different!)

I use what is legally availble to me within the letter of the law. I do not promulgate the sharing of files. I take what is available legally (I'll let everyone else debate the ethics)

I'm not the one posting it all or any of it. If I see it available however I do not hestitate to take whatever I find, the same would be true if I found a dollar bill on the floor, however.

I don't generally buy music, the same was true even before file-sharing arrived on the internet. I've also been recording music on the radio for years, and no one arrested me for doing that either. I haven't seen one kid and his boombox in jail yet over piles of un-credited TDK tape LOL.

I like the hits. I usedto record them offthe radio. Now I do it throughthe XM PCR thorugh my computer.

I also for historic reasonslike having all the songs from a particular year. I go to WABC music radio list on the internet (do a google I can't remember the URL) and download all the songs avialble directly off the charts for that year.

I have every song from 1965, 1967,1968 though 1979 etc. It takeswork to do this though. It becomes more of a hooby than a reliable method of theivery, which is why I believe in actuality, the RIAA, really isn't as concerned as they claim to be about individual users. It's took me years to do this. I do not have my files wide open with a DSL connection and 100 available slots, this is the sophistication I believethe recoding industry is acually interested in, altought they try to spook everyone else into thinking otherwise. My connection is 52k telephone snail modem. I record/ download about 8 songs a day, for my own private use, withthe filesharing option disabled. It is just my hobby and for my own personal use. I am not in the recording and/or record business. I just believe in milking my own technology and the forums that are currently available for all that they are worth, and for my personal enjoyment. If they come after me they've got to find something legallly that I am doing wrong.

If you want to pay at Itunes go ahead, I record movies off the television for my own personal use with the VCR I own and no one has ever thrown me in jail for doing this. The tapes stay within the privacy of my own house, and Im not making 20 copies to sell on the street at flea markets, garage sale stores etc.

If it sounds a bit like I am trying to justify my actions, I guess I will confess soemwhat that I am, but htese technologies and methods are around every corner and in every corner device imaginable. If this wasn;t the direction and the naturally evolution of the media forum for for music and movies, let them placed a devise and a chip or something else into everything that we own: our car radios, our satellite radios, our television sets. The problem most like is not the technoligical advancedment itself, butthe level of crimes that people are tempted to engage in because of the technology. As far as the technology, it is not waning it is actually getting stronger and more diverse. I think private use of recorder file mediums it inevitable. We'd all have to unplug, entirely in every luxerious technology we posess in order to end it.

I think thoughthe RIAA is angry about the current technology, they have pretty much accpeted its reality. Their compeign I believe was mostly set up to remind poeple ofthe abuse in the system, tyring to at least encourage people to cut back on what ultimately inevitable.

For the record, my guilt on download is still there some, but minimal. This technology is not only tempting for us all, but it also inevitable.

Just don't try to DSL link ten computers to your network, open your file-sharing options to 100, and start and ebay store with your new found riches.

Dewey (musicman and typing genius)