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Thread #75063   Message #1388361
Posted By: CarolC
25-Jan-05 - 03:50 PM
Thread Name: Obit: More Muslim intolerance?
Subject: RE: Obit: More Muslim intolerence?
does the word 'Pindari' mean anything to you? Didn't think so!

Actually, it does mean something to me, but I don't see that it is in support of any of your arguments execpt for the idea that British colonial rule was preferable to all of the alternatives. Very ethnocentric of you, to say the least. The British government, and subsequently, the US government, also used arguments like those to justify their reprehensible treatment of the indigenous peoples of what is now the US and Canada.

To summarise: Islam IS more prone to fanaticism than other religions; this was true before stupid US and British actions fuelled the flames

Interesting point. Let's examine what Christian Europe was up to during the period in question....

The British began influencing the region in the early 1600s. What was Christian Europe up to prior to and during that time? It was conducting witch hunts, and torturing and killing people (mostly women) who were accused of being witches... burning them alive in many cases. In Spain, Jews and other people who were not Christians were being forced to convert or be exiled. Many thousands were killed for not complying with the edict to convert to Christianity. Scientists were being killed and/or imprisoned for promoting ideas that contradicted the Bible and/or Christian church doctrine. The Christian Church was the final word on everything in the lives of all Euopeans during that time, and people disobeyed or contradicted the church at their peril, and oftentimes at the cost of their lives.

And what was Christian Europe doing in the New World and elsewhere during that time? It was committing mass genocide against the indigenous peoples in the Americas for being "heathens" (and also for their gold and other riches), and enslaving Black Africans and shipping them to the New World where they were bought and sold as chattel and treated as no more than animals. And the Europeans found their justification for this practice of slavery in the Bible. (To be fair, there were also Jews who were involved in trading in African slaves, and I don't know whether or not they used any sort of religious doctrine as a part of their rationalization of this practice, but I think it's safe to say that at least a large percentage of the slave industry was driven by European Christians who found their "justifications" in the Bible).

Ha. Talk about being ignorant of history. You win the prize on that one.

More later.