Still, it would be nice if people would adhere to to our guidelines without any control at all, and just be civil toward one another.

-Joe Offer-

Like many other posters here - I do not ever make abusive personal attacks on anyone or ever respond to obvious provocation. There is simply never any need nor any point in this. Your attacks upon me are simply because I hold and express a different view to you.

It is not pleasant being judged and having somone impose this judgement upon you (in the name of maintaining civility). There is little that is civil in this imposition and I feel that it should not be done lightly - if it should be done at all here.

Your personal attacks upon me were because you thought I was judging you unfairly and quite understandably - you did not like it much as you thought you did not deserve this judgement. Even though (unlike you) I could not take any editing action based on this judgement.

That is the way that many of the subjects of your judgement feel.

The best way to ensure that posters behave respectfully (if this is really the only object of all this censorship) - is to always set a good example and to always show those who Max has invited to contribute to our forum some respect. If you you feel you are qualified to judge their worth and feel you should control them and not look foolish - you probably always have to be above judgement yourself. And never feel you have the right to make abusive attacks at anyone or encourage others to - no matter how frustrated you may become with them.

I really don't mind you loosing your tongue and making abusive personal attacks on me (I would prefer some sensible debate with you and others on this issue). It really is very easy to ignore this from you or anyone else.

It is you and your anonymous volunteers seemingly ever-ready fingers on the edit buttom that concern me more than your tongue.