Stilly - No, I meant that being an agnostic is usually a step up in intelligence and awareness from being a rote "believer" in a fundamentalist or primitive traditional religion. The agnostic thinks for himself. The adherent to primitive religion lets someone else do the thinking for him...or lets a book do the thinking for him. He at least attempst to act on faith, not experience. The agnostic develops faith from experience...a wise procedure.

Beyond that, there is inquiry into further subtleties of inner awareness, which can lead toward spirituality. That's why I regard agnosticism as an intermediate stage in human development.

Traditional religion is like primary school
Agnosticism is like high school
The path to Enlightenment is like University

Does that make my idea clear?

Dianavan - How does one provide empirical evidence of All That Is? Everything is empirical evidence of the Infinite. God is not something that you can set on one side, apart from you, and say, "Now, there is God." You are yuorself included in the Infinite that is God.

It is an error to apply the concept of duality to the Infinite. The Infinite is inclusive of that concept (and all other concepts), but is not subject to it.

You are clearly not going to find the separated "evidence" you would wish to find about God... :-) because that which is termed "God" is NOT separate from anything.

Giok - I've met atheists who hold themselves (meaning their beliefs) up as the one and only path. I even met a couple who were former born-again Christians, newly born yet again as militant atheists...and MAN, what a pain they were! (at either stage...)