I am sorry you feel the need to leave, because I am sure you are being genuine. I don't doubt you saw and heard whatever it was that you saw and heard. I just feel so strongly because I know this lady and have great respect for her and her gifts. This is why these types of threads are the ones that I strongly consider deleting or closing. There is no way for them to be objective, and very good and hardworking performers can have their careers damaged. Cathie Ryan is one such performer. I am sure, knowing the person she is, that she would feel badly about this.