I wasn't trying to offend anyone, Mick. My introduction to what has been called "The Troubles" was Leon Uris' book "Trinity". I looked further.

I grew up singing with a fellow named Trevor who was an Orangeman. My own grandmother was a gal from England who seldom had a good word to say about 'The Irish' until she discoverd after receiving the family papers (when her older sister passed on) and found the birth certificate of her mother: she was Irish Catholic. My grandmother grew up in England. In this hodge-podge, I was thoroughly confused. Who to believe about what?

I will go get internet sources to show that the IRA, UDF and Brits kill savagely and without any remorse in the name of their 'causes'. Sorry, but with regard to Ireland, I have no respect for any of them. The three groups have their killers: tehy use them. SAS, IRA, UDF. They put a nice look on things with front parties, but what I see is a group of people who have deluded themselves into the belief that their cause is just. No cause is just when little kids are killed. Wheteher it's a drill bit through the knee or a bullet to blow off the cap, a sniper shot from a thousand yards or a bomb that is less discriminate, these people are not heroes in my opinion. And I don't care who's side they are on. That's what I meant. Nothing more and nothing less.