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Thread #77187   Message #1401338
Posted By: GUEST
07-Feb-05 - 12:50 AM
Thread Name: BS: UK worst robbery.PIRA?
Subject: RE: BS: UK worst robbery.PIRA?
"Paisley's mob or anyone else fools"

I'll call Paisley's mob's fools, idiots war mongers, but I will not point the finger at them and say you were the sole cause and the only asshole doing it.

Nor will I point the finger at Protestant people and say they are the sole cause.

We all forget that since before St Paddys time the Irish and English have been intertwinned.And not all bad that happens in Ireland can be blamed only on the English no matter how much I would like to to take the moral high ground some people try to do.

Accept it all our hands are dirty, you will never convince me that predjudism is unique to one side. Get real.

To get into the indepth reason of why such misguided people yell at school children takes honest dialogue, something that is sadly lacking on this board.

We have idiots dividing us on religous grounds rattelling on about the buck ejits in the orange order but not questions asked why they came about, maybe if the catholic's of that time had not attacked out laying protestant farms killing and maiming people than the OO would not have come about.

Both sides forget that Catholics fought alongside protestants with William, with the support of the Pope. And at that stage what would have been United about Ireland anyway, under a king who was a tyrant.

Do people forget about the Free Irish men, what was their religion Presbyterian, who have the most fluent Irish speaking people among their ranks today.

Life is not as black and white as it seems and no I am not defending loyalists nor the OO but trying to understand them. Just as I try to understand the IRA.

Look at the underlying reasons as to why things are done, maybe the people on the Ardoyne were driven to the action they took. Not much was reported on the trouble they had. And yes maybe those who were doing the ethnic cleansing of the protestants people from the Ardoyne had their reasons.

Something has to snap to make people react like that, its wrong, but maybe its understandable.Something makes them think their actions are just, just like the IRA bombing Omagh killing babes in the womb.

None of it is right,but finger pointing and deliberitly not understanding the other side solves nothing.

But of course there are those on both sides who see no wrong in their own.

Shame on you, narrow minded bigots.