Yes, a fair number of us insist on living the "blow up your TV, throw away your paper, move to the country and build you a home" lifestyle. Dialup is about all we can get living in the boondocks. I've never had any problem with it as far as the Mudcat goes. It sucks for downloads, streaming audio or video, animation, and sites with a lot of graphics. But for a mostly text site like the Mudcat it works okay. I am having a wee problem getting some of the longer threads to load, even with the "by page" or "descending order" option, but I think it's because I need more RAM, not due to the connection. I'm glad that Max has never allowed direct posting of photos, only links to them. I've been to some forums where practically every post has a photo appended and it takes forever for a page to load.