No one seems to have challenged Hawker's assertion that Bernie Grant tried to get black bin bags banned, so I'll do it. Where did you hear this story Hawker? Were you there when he said it? Or do you know somebody who knows somebody who knows it to be absolutely true? Or do you believe and pass on every urban myth put about by the Daily Mail or the BNP?

An intelligent man like Bernie Grant would never have done anything so stupid and I would like to give Hawker the credit for being credulous rather than stupid or malicious.

Persuade me, Hawker.