Yeah LH, you're wielding too big a brush, painting everything gray, and then saying we should call it all the same. Well, you should know from other threads that people don't tend to think that way. You remind me a bit of the argument fixer who says to the nazis, "you say you didn't kill any Jews" then says to the Jews, "You say 6 million were killed" then proposes "let's call it three million and shake hands!"

Yeah, that's not quite what you're saying, but the effect is similar, and I'm letting you try it on for size.

I think LH you mean well but you lack a real understanding of events and people in this case, both for the intent of this thread and for the events commemmorated in this thread. But that's okay. I've run into it before from way more self-righteous people than you. The ex-mayor of Anchrage once wrote an article in the main newspaper suggesting that Jews should try a little Xtian forgiveness for the crimes of the past.

But the forgiveness is not ours to give.

There is a lot of "re-chewing of the past" going on as well, and I agree with you that it is futile from the point of view of 'getting on with it'. But it is very very human. And there is something else going on that I don't see you acknowledging. There is a re-introduction of the subject of what humans are capable of, and a seeking to understand in greater the depth the why and wherefores of it. And it actually has more to do with mankind in general than Jews or Gypsies or Armenians or Tutsis or Hutus. This is a quality that we own, in ourselves and in our neighbors. The United States has been mercifully low in this compared to Europe, but if you were one of the condemned witches in Salem this might not make you feel better.

So I suggest we acknowledge the humanity of our fellow sufferers and yet continue to 'get on with it' as best as we can (sounds like a good album title, oh wait, it is one).

Peace