Jerry and Azizi, I am fascinated with the whole concept of off-beat clapping. I think white folks seem to have issues with it largely, but in my brief study, the people who are raised Baptist seem to get off beat clapping easily and the "higher" the church, the more difficulty they have with offbeat clapping. Methodists can sorta get it, Presbyterians seem to struggle more and by the time you get to the Episcopalians, well, you can forget it! They will give you all the clapping you want on the beat however! ducks and hides under the pew!   jimmyt