The "torture" that various Iraqi detainees have endured at British or American soldiers' hand is far less than they would have been subject to were they in Sadam's hands, but we claimed we were going to war to rid the area of these abuses.

What is worse though, is that we have shown that we are no better than the former Iraqi secret police, when it comes to treating detainees or POWs, and thse acts have spurred various resistance groups to kidnap and kill US and British nationals, once the word was out.   

Dave