So it sounds like 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and, where the off-beat is on the "and"? That's not at all unusual for an old rock 'n roller like myself who converted to bluegrass. I usually have the foot going on the beat and the hands going on the off-beat, sometimes with one clap, sometimes double as Jerry mentioned. Doesn't everyone do that?;) Thanks WYSIWYG and Jerry.

For those who weren't there, The Gospel Messengers and ShoreGrass and dwditty did a "Gospel in Black and Blue" workshop at NOMAD this year and it was so much fun. I'm enjoying this thread and also looking forward to on-the-job experience when ShoreGrass joins the Gospel Messengers as guests at their 8th anniversary concert on April 23 in Shelton, CT, USA!