The story of Auschwitz and the industrical complex that was put together to destroy peoples is now an icon of our understanding. It isn't about any one people, either as perpetrators or as victims. It's a lesson in what the Human Race is capable of, for good or ill. We have proven our capability of rendering hell on earth.

A better summing-up of this thread and the issue would be difficult to find..........

We know we can do better, but like the first ascent of a precipice, the way is not known. We don't know if everyone at the base of the mountain is worth tying a rope to but we have no choice, we have to tie up with someone.

The question is - do we know we can do better? Sometimes I feel that there appears to be little real will to make the attempt to learn from our past mistakes - and to do it better. But as we don't have any choice but to go on - there does seem very little point in knowingly repeating our past mistakes and recreating 'hell on earth'.....