Dewey, as you know I'm a praying woman. I'm praying that this thread will be closed, that you will find and join the site you dream of, and that God will speak to you there in such a way that you realize how really dumb you have been at Mudcat. As Hardi and I say when a parishioner makes a mess and then leaves loudly-- "May the Lord help them better, elsewhere, than we could help them here."