Right, Rapaire, as usual you examine things in a more logical way. The point isn't what would have happened if he had a knife. The proper question is, if he HAD done it with a knife, bat, whatever, would your response be the same. In typical liberal logic, we treat the symptom instead of the disease. The point isn't that a gun was used to kill these unfortunates. It is that they were killed. That is why the McVeigh analogy, the Andrea analogy, and the 911 analogy are relevant. Guns in the US aren't going away. After all these years of trying by the anti gun lobby, there are more States with "shall issue" Concealed Carry Weapons Permits than ever. Deal with what caused the kid to kill, rather than what he used to kill. Then you make real progress, save lives, instead of just making yourself feel better over a simplistic band aid fix.

Mick