You make perfectly good sense, susu, you're just not as experienced a debater as some of us are, and people will leap gleefully on any little slip-up in your presentation...naturally. That's what most people are like when they're debating.

(it's like scoring points in a boxing match) :-)

I think it's fairly clear that Saddam would have been ousted not too far down the road anyway. Seems like his older son was carefully planning a coup to overthrow the old man, but it got pre-empted by the Iraq war. His son might have been as bad or worse, of course. So might any other given successor. I'm afraid the Iraqis have been virtually guaranteed a bad time almost regardless of what happened. They weren't well off under Saddam. They aren't well off being invaded and occupied by the USA. They won't be well off when the USA leaves. God help them.