To say that one regards historical Zionism as a bad idea, Nerd, is not equivalent to denying Isrealis the right to live in Isreal now.

It was a bad idea when the Vikings raided and pillaged other people's land. It was a bad idea when the Mongols swept across Europe. It was a bad idea when Iroquois massacred Hurons. And so on, and so on...

Surely we could get to a point in our historical development as a human race where this sort of thing was not put up with any longer?

I mean, we have outlawed burning at the stake, for example. Everyone seems agreed on it. Could we not also outlaw invading and occupying other people's land, and make it stick, through effective international law?

My objections to Zionism do not mean that I oppose the present continuance of the state of Isreal. I just oppose the further expansion of Israeli settlements beyond the 1948 borders.