Speak for yourself Chip2447. I was not like that and I know plenty of others who weren't. A lot of people do recognise the better players and even go as far as trying to learn from them.

I've never thought the attitude described as an age thing. I've known middle age people start and know it all with in a week. A difficulty is they tend to lack listening skills both ways a) to the music being played (which one can do while playing) and b) to any comments made.

That said, maybe mooman is right and there is a chance but even he say's he's met some you can't win with. Whatever, I don't see not wanting a session being ruined as being elitist. As I indicated before, there is a big difference between a weak player (somone I hope we all accept and try to help) and a destructive player (someone who is usually loud, incompetent and lacking in any social awareness).