Robyn? I have another Kiwi friend who's called Robyn on the SayWhatClub. You're a different Kiwi obviously. I was born and raised in Padstow, but I reside in Redmond, Washington State, USA now. If you're a relative of Barry Kinsmen perhaps you should know that I was a classmate of his in Padstow Primary School. Have you read his book, Good Fellowship of Padstow which clearly describes this era? I'm one of the older children (2 years) one of those who he kindly describes thus, "Although I was a gentle, and rather timid child I was never bullied by the older children who were often quite protective towards me when they played cricket with me,. Padstow was a tough community, but underneath the aggressive exterior there was a greawt deal of care and kindness." Hey? The Shambles?? Are you still a Dutchman??? (big grin)