Robyn? It's too early in the morning, I thought you were talking about Barry Kinsmen and you're talking about Barry who's your kinsmen. Sorry about that, I should have a cuppa tea before I write anything. I was born in Alexandra House, 30 Dennis Road, Padstow. My brother still lives in Padstow on Moyle Road. My sister owns a flat at the far end of the Quay in what was known as Brabwyns Yard when I was a child. To get to it you have to pass underneath the flats in the building that used to be an Ice Factory back then. Perhaps we should take this exchange out of this arena? You're a guest, does that mean I can't send messages to you directly here? If so, feel free to contact me as lodenek@comcast.net Anybody still doubt that I'm a Padstonian?