you lot can intellectualise and pontificate as much as you like..

but if ever you and your family and friends are at the bottom of the shit heap
with no private savings or inherited wealth to help you surface from the mire..



"I doubt very much if the extremists on BOTH sides can let this thread stay reasonable, but I would like to share some of the observations that I have read here, in a non-partisan way. I think that some of these may be among the great truths of the world Then again, I could be wrong..."


sorry.. 'non-partisan'..!!!???????



"great truths of the world " ???


ha.. ha.. lend us a tenner [££££] until i can get the wifes wedding ring
back out of the pawn shop...