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Thread #80092   Message #1456706
Posted By: Dave'sWife
09-Apr-05 - 09:58 PM
Thread Name: Origins: do you know the muffin man
Subject: RE: Origins: do you know the muffin man
Do You Know The Muffin Man?

Oh, do you know the muffin man,
The muffin man, the muffin man,
Oh, do you know the muffin man
That lives on Drury Lane?

Oh, yes, I know the muffin man,
The muffin man, the muffin man,
Oh, yes I know the muffin man
That lives on Drury Lane.

Now two of us know the muffin man,
The muffin man, the muffin man,
Now two of us know the muffin man
That lives on Drury Lane.

Now we know the muffin man,
The muffin man, the muffin man,
Now we know the muffin man
That lives on Drury Lane.



As soon as I saw this thread, I too was reminded of the 'satanic panic' TV movie from CBS which starred Pam Dawber as a horrified mommie who discovers her kids had been sanred by a Satanic Child abuse ring via his daycare center. I don't know ANYTHING about the origins of this song beyond that we sang it as kids to a particular patty-cake game.

Lt. Michael Aquino (USAF Retired) was accused of being involved in the Presido chilkd abuse case which is mentioned in the TV Movie. His letter about the subject is pretty eloquent. He might be a creepy looking guy who runs a Neo-pagan church, but I sincerely doubt he had any role in the Presido Affair. He got dragged into it because of his expertise in Psycholigical Warfare and his personal eccentricities. DIdn't help that his wifes name is Lilith! He heads a group called The Temple of Set (TOS for short)and was once affiliated with Anton La Vey.

That Aquino was so public about his oppostion to the irresponsible nature of that TV Movie is most likely the reason why people associate sinister origins to the song. That and the fact that the film of the same name is about Ritual Satanaic Abuse or SRA for short.

Of course, maybe there is some deep and dark origin to The Muffin Man,   I'm sure another Mudcatte will tell us if there's anything to it!