wizzy you started off your nice set of answers with your trademark 'what you really mean is this', snide put down

I sure didn't feel or mean to be snide, but it appears you chose either to take it that way or to characterize it that way to be rude yourself. I would disagree that snideness is a trademark of mine... the last time I was called that, the next poster after the complaint spoke in assurance that I am anything but.

I asked a question (Secucrats, wouldn't it be?) and then made the point that you have put two things in opposition that rarely meet either in opposition or agreement.

On balance, I think considering the offers that have been made to me to get upset in this thread, I've responded more than civilly. Perhaps you might address the question I raised?

~Susan